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My Religious Journey Going Backwards

I looked around at the scraggly bunch of kids dressed in their everyday clothes. I said to one of the other guys “You’d think they would put on their better clothes.” and the reply came back “They are wearing their better clothes.” Here I was at a school in the hills in the north of Vietnam wondering what I had got myself into. I was surrounded by primary school kids at a free primary school that was kept alive by the Global Languages Center GLC a Vietnam non profit based in Hanoi. These kids had nothing just the clothes on their backs that hadn’t been washed for I don’t know how long. I liked going out with this group because we seemed to end up with the poorest of the poor. This school was on the edge of a major tourist centre and they had been marginalized by society. In Vietnam there was no safety net like in the West and they were living off handouts from Charity organizations and the group I belonged too was very active in this region. I do volunteer work for a number of groups and for this group I taught English to poverty stricken kids.
I like Vietnam and I usually come here every year for up to 6 months if I can. I live in a Hostel in Hoan Kiem in Hanoi right next door to the Catholic Cathedral. I can look out the window and see the Cathedral looming up into the pollution and in the morning I’m woken up to the bells ringing at 5 am. Then I get up and join the morning walkers and go for a run around Hoan Kiem lake about 5mins walk away. On the weekends there is no wheeled traffic so we have the road to ourselves.
The Cathedral is an amazing place. During the mass you can hardly get a seat and during the Homily the priest walks up and down the centre isle talking. Here there is no English Mass so I go to another Church for an English Mass. This is held in a small chapel beside a bigger Church where they hold the Vietnamese Mass. This is basically a student church where everybody is University age and they are all learning English. Sometimes I go to their learn English meetings to give them somebody to practice their English with. That is also an amazing Mass with the Priest speaking English and walking down the center isle asking questions to the parishioners. I will mention one more church in Hanoi. This church is the most crowded church I have been too. There are rows and rows of seats outside the entrance door and along both sides of the church with outside loud speakers so the parishioners could hear the Mass. When I first went to that church I just couldn’t believe the numbers of people. I just stood there amazed. In the West church numbers are dwindling but not in the East.
Before I ended up in Vietnam I was in and out of China since the end of last century. My first Christmas in China, back in 1994 I think, was something else. I started off to go to the main Cathedral and the police had the church surrounded and the only way in was through a police checkpoint. Now I am not used to walking through a police check point to go to church So I walked to a smaller church where I knew the piano player. When I got there it looked like the little church was closed, there were no lights on anywhere. There was an old women sitting behind the closed gate and when she saw me she opened the gate and let me in. The church was nearly full and they were all sitting in darkness. Then at 7pm the lights came on and we had Christmas Mass and at 8 oclock when the Mass was over the lights went out. In those days the church was paranoid possible because of the attitude of the government. I think the church people were quite pleased I was there for Christmas Mass because the authorities would not do anything with a foreigner there and I am not Chinese. And they did say someone from the Government office came and had a look. After Church they were taking photos and I didn’t want my picture taking but the piano man said it was safe. The piano man spent 19 years in prison because he was a Catholic and when he was dying I told two priests he was dying and nobody gave him last rites. His funeral was during a usual Sunday morning Mass at the little Church as they were not allowed to do extra Masses. There were very few people there.
After that night China opened up and those days were gone. A few years later I was back in China for Christmas. I was on the bus going past the Cathedral and there were these crowd control barriers on the side of the road and they stretched for over a kilometer from the Cathedral. To get to the Cathedral to go to Christmas Mass you had to walk inside the barrier. The police were still there but they were not checking anyone and there were people everywhere. The police were there for crowd control and to keep us safe. I went to the little church again and this time it was ablaze in lights and colour. The police were there but they were just maintaining the peace. Anyone could come and go as they pleased. It was an amazing change from what it was like to now. I could hardly believe the difference.
One of the most amazing Church services I went to was an unregistered Mass on Saturday evening. All that meant was the Church had not told the Government they were holding a church service. It was not advertised so there were not many people in this huge Cathedral where the only lights were at the alter. We were all sitting in the dark in this amazing over 100 year old building, and in there was the closest I got to God. I used to go every Saturday evening then the Mass was registered so the lights went on. And there was no more amazing feeling that I got sitting in the darkened cathedral where you could not even see the ceiling as it was so dark and so high. Sometimes modernization has its disadvantages.
In the Cathedral last time I was there back in 2014 there were 6 big TV screens 3 on each side so you can see what was happening at the alter. The English Mass started at 3pm and you had to get there at around 2:30 to get a seat. Then they brought out stools and there was still standing room only. And there were 6 Communion stations in different parts of the Cathedral, and Communion was organized chaos but we all somehow managed to get Communion.
Another honourable mention was at a Trade Fair my bag was X-rayed and I had a Crucifixion Cross in my bag and they stopped and searched my bag until they found my Cross. When they realized it wasn’t a weapon they gave it back. But they did not realize it was the greatest weapon they had ever seen.
Also when I was gallivanting around Asia I used to go to Church online in Secondlife at the Anglican Cathedral on Epiphany Island. That was amazing and even there I was part of a church community and I felt like I belonged. Also I would usually go to the prayer meeting that were held every night. When I went back to the West the time zones did not match up so I stopped going.
Back in my home country at my Catholic Church I was one of the volunteers that helped during the Mass. On any Saturday evening when I was at Church I could be a greeter, the person who hands out the leaflets at the door to the church, a reader where we read the scriptures to the people in the church, a Communion Minister where we administer either the wine or the bread to the congregation.
I go to this religion because I was brought up a Catholic, I went to a Catholic Primary School and I followed the Catholic Program through the church. But as I got older I went to different churches to see what they were like.
And on Sunday evenings I went to a Church service for ‘street kids’ and the lower socio economic bracket. And it was simply amazing, mind you anything that was not bolted down went missing and once the church was broken into and the microwave and a few other things were taken. We were sensible and left nothing in the church where as in a nearby church on another occasion all the musical instruments were stolen. Anyway at this church they started off with a meal then there was singing and dancing and preaching and it was something completely different to organized religion that I was used to. And there I had my first chance to do some preaching and I loved it. I do know my Bible and as I am a teacher I’m used to being in front of people so I just fell into place. In that church I could do things I could never do at my Catholic Church.
Going back further I was a part of the Jesus Revolution handing out pamphlets and talking to people on the street. That was my usual Friday night back in the day, but that all died out and now it is a distance memory.

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From the Pope “Parents’ vocation to educate children”


(Vatican Radio) In his catechesis at the General Audience on Wednesday, Pope Francis focused on the role of parents in the education of their children, which he called “an essential characteristic” of the family. 

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In latest interview, Pope Francis reveals top 10 secrets to happiness


Interview No. 11: “One-On-One with the Pope” – Francis’ 10 Tips for a Happy Life | NOVUS ORDO WATCH


Bergoglio’s 11th Interview

“One-On-One with the Pope” —
Francis’ 10 Tips for a Happy Life include
“Live and Let Live” and “No Proselytism”

Now UPDATED with full English Translation of Francis’ 10 Steps to Happiness, below

It seems that “Pope” Francis is interested in letting each and every publication in the world have its own special interview with him, and this time (July 27, 2014), it’s for the Argentine Viva, a Sunday supplement to the Clarín newspaper.

At this point, details are still spotty, as almost nothing has yet been published online about the content of the 77-minute interview, which was recorded on video. Entitled “Mano a Mano con el Papa” — “One-On-One with the Pope” — it is an account of journalist Pablo Calvo’s conversation with the Argentine papal pretender.

A few days ago, Clarin had already released a brief teaser clip of the interview. Here it is again:

It is a really good thing that Calvo recorded the conversation on video; this way, no one will later be able to say, “Who knows if these words attributed to the Pope are even accurate?!” — as has been the fashion lately.

One substantial excerpt of the interview’s content has been released online so far, however: Francis has given “10 Suggestions for a Happy Life”, which we share below (in English translation — Spanish original posted here). Now, keep in mind, this is a Modernist speaking, so please proceed with caution — do not expect to find Catholic content here:

  1. Live and let live. “Here the Romans have a saying
    that we can follow like a thread: “Go ahead and let others go ahead
    too.” Live and let live, that is the first step towards peace and joy.”
  2. Giving oneself to others. “If one stays still, they run the risk of being selfish. And still water is the first to spoil.”
  3. Moving like a peaceful oasis. “In Don Segundo Sombra
    there is a beautiful image of someone who reflects on their own life.
    He says that as a youth he was a rocky stream that moved everything in
    its path; as an adult he was a river that moved ahead and that in old
    age he felt in motion, but slowly like a peaceful oasis [“remansado” in
    the original]. I would use the image of the poet and writer Ricardo
    Güiraldes, this last adjective “remansado.” The capacity to move with
    kindness and humility, the peaceful oasis of life. Old people have this
    wisdom, they are the memory of a nation. And a nation that does not look
    after its old people has no future.
  4. Playing with kids. “Consumerism has lead us to an
    anxiety about losing a healthy culture of leisure, reading, enjoying
    art. These days I rarely hear confessions, but in Buenos Aires I used to
    do that a lot and when a young mum came to me, I asked her: “How many
    children do you have? Do you play with them?” And it was a question she
    did not expect, but I said to her that playing with kids is key, it is a
    healthy culture. It is difficult, parents go to work early and at times
    return when the kids are already sleeping, it is difficult, but it has
    to be done.”
  5. Spending Sundays with the family. “The other day,
    in Campobasso, I went to a meeting between the worlds of academia and
    the world of labor, and both were demanding Sundays without work. Sunday
    is for the family.”
  6. Helping young people find employment. “We have to
    be creative with their age group. If there is a lack of opportunity,
    they will fall prey to drugs. And the suicide index among young people
    without employment is very high. The other day I read, but I don’t trust
    it because it is not scientific data, that there are 75 million
    unemployed young people below the age of 25.3 It is not
    enough to feed them: we have to make up one-year courses for them to
    learn plumbing, becoming an electrician or a builder. Bringing bread
    home is what gives you dignity.”
  7. Looking after nature. “We have to look after creation and we are not doing it. It is one of the greatest challenges we have.”
  8. Quickly forgetting about the negative. “The need
    to speak ill of another indicates low self-esteem, in other words: I
    feel so low that instead of rising, I lower the other. Quickly
    forgetting what is negative is healthy.”
  9. Respecting those who think differently. “We may
    trouble others by our testimony, so that we may both progress in our
    communication, but the worst that can happen is religious proselytism,
    which paralyzes: “I dialogue with you to convince [convert] you.” No! Each one
    dialogues from their own identity. The Church grows by attraction, not
    by proselytism.”
  10. Actively seeking peace. “We are living in times of
    many wars. In Africa, wars look like tribal wars, but they are
    something else. War destroys. And the call for peace has to be shouted.
    Peace at times gives the impression of stillness, but it is never
    stillness, it is always an active peace.”


Notice in particular that there is no mention of anything supernatural here; it’s all totally geared towards this earthly life, which must necessarily end, and which is not our eternal destiny, not the reason for our existence. True happiness in this life is
impossible. Would have been nice for him to mention. Then again, not being a Catholic, he wouldn’t understand. He does not speak about God at all, and of course Sundays are only for the “family.”

But our favorite in the above “10 Commandments of Happiness” is point no. 9, in which Bergoglio says: “pero lo peor que puede haber es el proselitismo religioso, que paraliza: ‘Yo dialogo contigo para convencerte’, no” — “but the worst that can happen is religious proselytism, which paralyzes: ‘I dialogue with you in order to convert you.’ No!”

This is definitely a familiar theme with Mr. Bergoglio, who said in January 2014 that “[t]o dialogue means to believe that the ‘other’ has something worthwhile to say, and to entertain his or her point of view and perspective. Engaging in dialogue does not mean renouncing our own ideas and traditions, but the claim that they alone are valid or absolute” (source).

Well then, welcome to Francis’ New Gospel, that of “live and let live”, where the worst thing you can do is try to convince the other that the Catholic Church alone has the absolute truth.

Tom Droleskey has provided an insightful commentary on this nonsense, here:


The July 27 Cover of CLARIN

There is more content of the interview in Spanish at this link. But you’ve probably already read enough.


UPDATE 29-JUL-2014: Some Novus Ordo coverage of the interview has now appeared:



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The wheat and the weeds


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